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		<title>Comment on About this Blog by Clean Change Company : Clean Change Company Online Shop, Clean: thinking that makes an impact</title>
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		<title>Comment on Creativity is Change by Valerusd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valerusd</dc:creator>
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		<title>Comment on Creativity is Change by Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting. I could scribble alot but 
I&#039;ll stick to one point. The creative process,
for me, is exactly that, a process. It&#039;s an 
organic, fluid process, that loops and spirals.
It splinters off, morphs, evolves. It can hit
deadends, produce embarrassing results(!) or 
grind to a halt. One of the most important 
things is not giving up, when creative ideas
don&#039;t work we have to ask why, find the answers,
adapt and evolve these ideas and then move on.
I think it&#039;s important to have this element of 
continual assessment and review within the creative 
process, as this increases the chance of a 
successful solution being found. The creative process
is frustrating but persistence and determination
will give the rewards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting. I could scribble alot but<br />
I&#8217;ll stick to one point. The creative process,<br />
for me, is exactly that, a process. It&#8217;s an<br />
organic, fluid process, that loops and spirals.<br />
It splinters off, morphs, evolves. It can hit<br />
deadends, produce embarrassing results(!) or<br />
grind to a halt. One of the most important<br />
things is not giving up, when creative ideas<br />
don&#8217;t work we have to ask why, find the answers,<br />
adapt and evolve these ideas and then move on.<br />
I think it&#8217;s important to have this element of<br />
continual assessment and review within the creative<br />
process, as this increases the chance of a<br />
successful solution being found. The creative process<br />
is frustrating but persistence and determination<br />
will give the rewards.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Creative / Not Creative by Diana Gibbs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diana Gibbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 14:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought I&#039;d offer the opening of a post-grad Diploma paper written by my partner, as it just feels so apposite to your explorations. If you&#039;d like the full thesis as a link, I&#039;ll ask for permission for you to have it. Here is the first page and a half:

Logic and Creativity

I have spent part of my working life to date as a composer, and then part as a manager.  The move from one to the other was voluntary and deliberate.  I could have continued with what many thought of as a charmed and enviable life, earning a decent living by writing music for television and radio, working every day with glamorous and imaginative people.  Yet I moved on because I believed that working in management was more participative and more creative.  I want to explore why that is.
It is a charged, value-full word, creativity.  It is a Good Thing, to be encouraged in the employees of well-adjusted learning organisations.  There are ‘how to’ books about promoting it.  Linking artistic endeavour with business is fashionable.  A training intervention is currently available in which manager-delegates can sit with specific instruments within an orchestra as it performs, and so realise in a practical sense truths about, for example, what it feels like to try to perform one’s line without being able to hear other critical instruments, or what performers really need of their conductors, or what transformations can occur when the entire orchestra/organisation is in good alignment—and how it feels to be playing out of tune.  Business literature examines creativity as invention—emphasising newness and something-from-nothing; or looks at it only within imagination-oriented businesses such as media, graphic design, or marketing agencies; or focuses on creativity as if it were a tool, to be deployed in certain sessions and techniques like brainstorming or mind-mapping, which will solve problems or discover new insights.  Creative thought is about inspiration and flashes of insight, good ideas, a knack for lateral thinking, the opposite of the traditional.
Or creativity is at the heart of new, post-Newtonian visions of how organisations might work in the future.  It is the fellow of magical chaos, the outcome of explosive phase changes as organisations oscillate uncomfortably between order and disintegration.  It promotes singularly gushing accounts of its coming into being:
&quot;Any moment now the earth will crack open and we will stare into its dark centre.  Into that smoking caldera, we will be asked to throw most of what we have treasured, most of the techniques and tools that have made us feel competent.  We know what we must do.  And when we finally step forward to do it, when we have made our sacrificial offerings to the gods of understanding, then the ruptures will cease.  Healing waters will cover the land, giving birth to new life, burying forever the ancient, rusting machines of our past understandings.  And on these waters we will set sail to places we now can only imagine.  There we will be blessed with new visions and new magic.  We will feel once again like creative participants in this mysterious world.&quot;
These are part of my personal understanding of what creativity is, too, but they seem to be either essentially limited and limiting, or so breathless as to be without substance.  They attempt to smooth the edges, contain, understand and, by understanding, tame; or they deny understanding.  They attempt to apply risk analysis to something which is quintessentially risk itself, or they place it on a pedestal and worship without attempting comprehension.  It can be all of these things, but it can also be their opposites.  Creativity can mean innovation, but it can also mean the rediscovery of old truths that have become mouldy and moss-covered.  A dissection of creativity into components or examples seems to me to kill it dead; I want to find other ways of thinking and writing about it.  There is no untruth in any of these lines of inquiry, but there is not much rich truth, either.
When I stare inward and concentrate on what creativity means I sense a set of feelings, a breathed atmosphere, a scent, that is common both to a sensation of going well in a composition and going well in a meeting, a conversation, a project.  There is a smell of danger, too, of disturbance and lack of control, of being outside the comfort zone.  Questions, as opposed to statements, come into it; as do enthusiasm and passion, sensitivity and empathy, and the deliberate giving away of agendas.  Euphoria can be there, but often as a problem, because creativity in the workplace can be cliquey and exclusive.  There can be arrogance, vanity, and lack of humility, but also insecurity and loneliness.  Authenticity, both real and manipulated, is there too.
What is this creativity?  How does it work?  If it is good and valuable, how can I encourage it, both in myself and in those with whom I work and associate?  Why do I instinctively feel that there are interesting inter-penetrations between the world of the creative artist and the world of the manager?  What might they be; what is their nature, do they cast a useful light on either discipline?  Can one manage better—whatever that means—through thinking about composing or painting; can one compose better, by understanding how collections of people behave in the context of an organisation?

The complete paper is stunning and right now I can&#039;t add to it, although I do have my own views and regard my own consultancy as a creatve business!

Diana</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought I&#8217;d offer the opening of a post-grad Diploma paper written by my partner, as it just feels so apposite to your explorations. If you&#8217;d like the full thesis as a link, I&#8217;ll ask for permission for you to have it. Here is the first page and a half:</p>
<p>Logic and Creativity</p>
<p>I have spent part of my working life to date as a composer, and then part as a manager.  The move from one to the other was voluntary and deliberate.  I could have continued with what many thought of as a charmed and enviable life, earning a decent living by writing music for television and radio, working every day with glamorous and imaginative people.  Yet I moved on because I believed that working in management was more participative and more creative.  I want to explore why that is.<br />
It is a charged, value-full word, creativity.  It is a Good Thing, to be encouraged in the employees of well-adjusted learning organisations.  There are ‘how to’ books about promoting it.  Linking artistic endeavour with business is fashionable.  A training intervention is currently available in which manager-delegates can sit with specific instruments within an orchestra as it performs, and so realise in a practical sense truths about, for example, what it feels like to try to perform one’s line without being able to hear other critical instruments, or what performers really need of their conductors, or what transformations can occur when the entire orchestra/organisation is in good alignment—and how it feels to be playing out of tune.  Business literature examines creativity as invention—emphasising newness and something-from-nothing; or looks at it only within imagination-oriented businesses such as media, graphic design, or marketing agencies; or focuses on creativity as if it were a tool, to be deployed in certain sessions and techniques like brainstorming or mind-mapping, which will solve problems or discover new insights.  Creative thought is about inspiration and flashes of insight, good ideas, a knack for lateral thinking, the opposite of the traditional.<br />
Or creativity is at the heart of new, post-Newtonian visions of how organisations might work in the future.  It is the fellow of magical chaos, the outcome of explosive phase changes as organisations oscillate uncomfortably between order and disintegration.  It promotes singularly gushing accounts of its coming into being:<br />
&#8220;Any moment now the earth will crack open and we will stare into its dark centre.  Into that smoking caldera, we will be asked to throw most of what we have treasured, most of the techniques and tools that have made us feel competent.  We know what we must do.  And when we finally step forward to do it, when we have made our sacrificial offerings to the gods of understanding, then the ruptures will cease.  Healing waters will cover the land, giving birth to new life, burying forever the ancient, rusting machines of our past understandings.  And on these waters we will set sail to places we now can only imagine.  There we will be blessed with new visions and new magic.  We will feel once again like creative participants in this mysterious world.&#8221;<br />
These are part of my personal understanding of what creativity is, too, but they seem to be either essentially limited and limiting, or so breathless as to be without substance.  They attempt to smooth the edges, contain, understand and, by understanding, tame; or they deny understanding.  They attempt to apply risk analysis to something which is quintessentially risk itself, or they place it on a pedestal and worship without attempting comprehension.  It can be all of these things, but it can also be their opposites.  Creativity can mean innovation, but it can also mean the rediscovery of old truths that have become mouldy and moss-covered.  A dissection of creativity into components or examples seems to me to kill it dead; I want to find other ways of thinking and writing about it.  There is no untruth in any of these lines of inquiry, but there is not much rich truth, either.<br />
When I stare inward and concentrate on what creativity means I sense a set of feelings, a breathed atmosphere, a scent, that is common both to a sensation of going well in a composition and going well in a meeting, a conversation, a project.  There is a smell of danger, too, of disturbance and lack of control, of being outside the comfort zone.  Questions, as opposed to statements, come into it; as do enthusiasm and passion, sensitivity and empathy, and the deliberate giving away of agendas.  Euphoria can be there, but often as a problem, because creativity in the workplace can be cliquey and exclusive.  There can be arrogance, vanity, and lack of humility, but also insecurity and loneliness.  Authenticity, both real and manipulated, is there too.<br />
What is this creativity?  How does it work?  If it is good and valuable, how can I encourage it, both in myself and in those with whom I work and associate?  Why do I instinctively feel that there are interesting inter-penetrations between the world of the creative artist and the world of the manager?  What might they be; what is their nature, do they cast a useful light on either discipline?  Can one manage better—whatever that means—through thinking about composing or painting; can one compose better, by understanding how collections of people behave in the context of an organisation?</p>
<p>The complete paper is stunning and right now I can&#8217;t add to it, although I do have my own views and regard my own consultancy as a creatve business!</p>
<p>Diana</p>
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		<title>Comment on Creativity is Change by Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2007 19:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess creativity means different things to different people.  We generally think of creativity as &#039;a good thing&#039; and in those terms I agree with Cherry and her example of how a change may not be &#039;positively creative&#039;.  

However, if we take the judgment of positive or negative out of creativity, I am guessing that all change is creative. 

For example the US government has developed military lasers that can knock out missiles.  This is creative because something exists that wasn&#039;t there before.  The creative process must have been in full inventive flow to create such extraordinary devices that mix fairly common chemicals - roughly comparable to household bleach and sink drain uncloggers - to produce a laser that can deliver megawatts of heat energy hundreds of miles away. It&#039;s definitely creative - and we may or may not like what they&#039;ve created.

That said, I think in this blog we are really looking at creativity for broadly positive effect and how to get more of it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess creativity means different things to different people.  We generally think of creativity as &#8216;a good thing&#8217; and in those terms I agree with Cherry and her example of how a change may not be &#8216;positively creative&#8217;.  </p>
<p>However, if we take the judgment of positive or negative out of creativity, I am guessing that all change is creative. </p>
<p>For example the US government has developed military lasers that can knock out missiles.  This is creative because something exists that wasn&#8217;t there before.  The creative process must have been in full inventive flow to create such extraordinary devices that mix fairly common chemicals &#8211; roughly comparable to household bleach and sink drain uncloggers &#8211; to produce a laser that can deliver megawatts of heat energy hundreds of miles away. It&#8217;s definitely creative &#8211; and we may or may not like what they&#8217;ve created.</p>
<p>That said, I think in this blog we are really looking at creativity for broadly positive effect and how to get more of it!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Kaiser Chiefs&#8217; Creative Process by Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2007 19:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Creative thoughts come to me in different ways I think.  Sometimes it&#039;s like Steph&#039;s alignment.  And sometimes an idea just pops into my head.  I don&#039;t know where it comes from, I might guess at it being emergent from some unconscious thinking and feeling and impressions received but not consciously noticed.  

When it does, I am very sure at the time that it is a good idea. &#039;Ooh, yes!&#039; I say to myself.  The idea has a very short half-life - I like to think I&#039;ll remember it at a later more convenient time and I usually don&#039;t.  So I feel have to capture it somehow.  Oddly, the capturing (putting it down on paper as words or sketch or mindmap) can destroy it or at least make it mundane and less compelling.  

Now I think of it, &#039;capturing&#039; might be the wrong way to do it - think of what the metaphor of capture implies: caging, restraining - the eye of the caged tiger is dull and listless, its movements not so much prowling as pacing.  

Maybe it&#039;s too soon to be so concrete in the creative process.  I would like a different metaphor and activity that enables the good idea to develop.  Perhaps write a story around rather than about it, parallel, creating a context around it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Creative thoughts come to me in different ways I think.  Sometimes it&#8217;s like Steph&#8217;s alignment.  And sometimes an idea just pops into my head.  I don&#8217;t know where it comes from, I might guess at it being emergent from some unconscious thinking and feeling and impressions received but not consciously noticed.  </p>
<p>When it does, I am very sure at the time that it is a good idea. &#8216;Ooh, yes!&#8217; I say to myself.  The idea has a very short half-life &#8211; I like to think I&#8217;ll remember it at a later more convenient time and I usually don&#8217;t.  So I feel have to capture it somehow.  Oddly, the capturing (putting it down on paper as words or sketch or mindmap) can destroy it or at least make it mundane and less compelling.  </p>
<p>Now I think of it, &#8216;capturing&#8217; might be the wrong way to do it &#8211; think of what the metaphor of capture implies: caging, restraining &#8211; the eye of the caged tiger is dull and listless, its movements not so much prowling as pacing.  </p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s too soon to be so concrete in the creative process.  I would like a different metaphor and activity that enables the good idea to develop.  Perhaps write a story around rather than about it, parallel, creating a context around it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Kaiser Chiefs&#8217; Creative Process by Steph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 10:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for me a flash of inspiration comes when two or more different ideas suddenly &#039;align&#039; and then make a new thing. its a bit like planets lining up to cause an eclipse. a moment of sycronicity!

in order to judge how successful the created thing is, I have to have a strong desire to express it and it seems that it is most sucessful when it correspondes with something that someone else also needs, that is a desire to consume 
such as a painting or song (again an alignment)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for me a flash of inspiration comes when two or more different ideas suddenly &#8216;align&#8217; and then make a new thing. its a bit like planets lining up to cause an eclipse. a moment of sycronicity!</p>
<p>in order to judge how successful the created thing is, I have to have a strong desire to express it and it seems that it is most sucessful when it correspondes with something that someone else also needs, that is a desire to consume<br />
such as a painting or song (again an alignment)</p>
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		<title>Comment on About this Blog by Laure Duthu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laure Duthu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Marian and Phil,
Before tring to answer your questions, 
I would like to share with you what Chantal Lefort, a french NLP trainer, told me once. 
There are 3 ways of being creative : 
- to apply as a copy, 
- to apply as a translation from one situation to another,
- to innovate from nothing.
I really appreciate these 3 levels of creativity. They are meaningful for me, as a model of increasing creativity. 

My first experience about creativity ?
I have discovered that  the less stressed I am, the more creative I can be. One of my pre-requisits for creativity :  to be available to another person&#039;s ideas , feeling free to let emerge mad ideas, playing a joyful game. I am not really aware of my internal process yet, I just know that it deals with finding links between different ideas. 

I work with many engineers, and I would like to know how to help them increase their creativity, when they are asked to be innovative and together  design and produce quicker and cheaper.  Your questions will help me, Thank you  !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Marian and Phil,<br />
Before tring to answer your questions,<br />
I would like to share with you what Chantal Lefort, a french NLP trainer, told me once.<br />
There are 3 ways of being creative :<br />
- to apply as a copy,<br />
- to apply as a translation from one situation to another,<br />
- to innovate from nothing.<br />
I really appreciate these 3 levels of creativity. They are meaningful for me, as a model of increasing creativity. </p>
<p>My first experience about creativity ?<br />
I have discovered that  the less stressed I am, the more creative I can be. One of my pre-requisits for creativity :  to be available to another person&#8217;s ideas , feeling free to let emerge mad ideas, playing a joyful game. I am not really aware of my internal process yet, I just know that it deals with finding links between different ideas. </p>
<p>I work with many engineers, and I would like to know how to help them increase their creativity, when they are asked to be innovative and together  design and produce quicker and cheaper.  Your questions will help me, Thank you  !</p>
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		<title>Comment on Creativity is Change by Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 21:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fascinating stuff!
From nothing to something; from conceptual and twinkle in the eye, to activating and concrete and here!
How could this be applied to helping someone change, make a transition...especially a really unusual example or idea of how it could be applied.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating stuff!<br />
From nothing to something; from conceptual and twinkle in the eye, to activating and concrete and here!<br />
How could this be applied to helping someone change, make a transition&#8230;especially a really unusual example or idea of how it could be applied.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Creative / Not Creative by Gurudatt Kundapurkar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gurudatt Kundapurkar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 06:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Creativity for me is thinking differently, non-
judgementally, and derive great joy or maybe
reduce or eliminate pain.  Words that I associate
with creativity are : uncommon, unique, spon-
taneous, surprising or shocking, breaking rules,
daring to be different, faith in oneself as
problem-solver, ahead of times, indescribable
joy of achievement whosoever trivial it may be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Creativity for me is thinking differently, non-<br />
judgementally, and derive great joy or maybe<br />
reduce or eliminate pain.  Words that I associate<br />
with creativity are : uncommon, unique, spon-<br />
taneous, surprising or shocking, breaking rules,<br />
daring to be different, faith in oneself as<br />
problem-solver, ahead of times, indescribable<br />
joy of achievement whosoever trivial it may be.</p>
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